Build your own telescope part 2: the tube

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I recently completed the tube of my 8 inches telescope. For this project, I didn’t have any plans so I had to spend a lot of time figuring out the appropriate dimensions of each elements.

While I was building the primary mirror, I used Mel Bartels‘s website a lot. It really is a very good source of information and advice for anyone building fast telescopes. One of his recent project is a 10.5 inches F2.7 dobsonian telescope. I really liked the hexagonal design of the tube and I started to look for other geometric wooden telescope. As an amateur woodworker, I didn’t want to go with Sonotube or PVC and I wanted to avoid plywood if possible.

10.5 inch finished 4

 

Here’s another beautiful telescope I found on Stargazers Lounge. It has an octagonal structure and is made out of walnut. The build quality is just remarkable.

octagonal scope

 

Finally, I stumbled upon Normand Fullum wooden telescopes which seem to be coming straight from a Jules Verne book. The scopes have a 16 faced hardwood structure and the mounts are totally out of the ordinary.

normand fullum
With all these ideas in my head, I started to look for wood to make and octagonal scope. I was given some Western Red Cedar trims which unfortunately where not large enough to build a big enough octagnal structure. I decided to double the number of sides and go with a Hexadecagonal tube (16 sides). After resawing, planing and sanding I had 16 boards 1/4 inch thick.

To make sure my design would work, I used Newt for the Web which enabled me to test the absence of vignetting, the right position of the focuser, the size of the elliptical, etc. Using this software, I realized it was calculating the position for baffles which are designed to block internal reflection on the tube. I originally didn’t plan on including those but I realized they would help me give strength to the instrument.

newt 8in dobsonian

 

Once I finalized the design using Newt, I ordered an elliptical mirror (1.83 in L/18) from Antares Optics. I also started to design the baffles using Inkscape. The 3 baffles closer to the front of the tube where so thin, I had to laser cut them on an Epilog laser cutter at the local hackerspace (Yukonstruct).

baffles

 

With the baffles cut, I started to think about how I would glue the 16 sides together. A friend of mine mentioned using bird’s mouth joinery. It would give strength and ease of clamping during the gluing process. I bought a kit of bird’s mouth router bits from Busy Bee Tools and routed one side of each board. Then I taped the boards together and placed them around the baffles for a test. That gave me a rough idea of what size I needed for each board.

bird mouth joinery
telescope design testing

 

After hand-planing the boards on the non-routed side, I started to glue them on the baffles on every other segment of the hexadecagon. I glued the other sides after adjusting their size by hand to get them to fit properly.

Once the tube was complete, I sanded the edges and faces using 100, 220, 400 and 600 grit. I also coated it with 5 coats of spar varnish on the outside and india ink on the inside. I applied 3 coats of spray polyurethane to waterproof the inside.

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wooden telescope 8

 

The next step was to drill a hole large enough for the focuser. I bought a Moonlight Crayford with a 2 inches tube and a 1.5 inches travel length. I used a 2.125 saw and filed the edge to make it a bit larger. I also had to create small cedar parts to accommodate the width of the focuser and the shape of the tube. I then drilled 4 holes to hold the focuser in place.

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wooden telescope 17

 

The next step was the primary mirror cell. I created it the same way I did for the baffles by making an SVG file and cutting it with the laser. I used 1/4 inch baltic birch plywood so I had to glue 3 parts to get a good support. I used standard hardware (hex bolts, wing nuts, nylon washers and screws, compression springs) and painted the wood black and applied polyurethane on it. The primary mirror rests on 3 silicon glue dots and is maintained on the side by 3 nylon screws.

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wooden telescope 13

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The secondary mirror holder is inspired by Gary Seronik’s design. I used a steel ruler for support and made a dowel from 2 inches thick birch stock. The mirror is glued to the dowel using silicon glue.

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The first light was on may 3rd as I aimed at Venus with the sun still shining. I could clearly see the gibbous phase with an 11mm Explore Scientific wide angle eyepiece. I could see a slight bit of chromatic aberration on Venus but that probably comes from a bad manual collimation.

I then spotted Jupiter with sun still above the horizon and I got a dramatically sharp view of the planet with 2 bands clearly visible and a transit of Callisto. Europa and Ganymede where really sharp too.

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wooden telescope

 

For a scope not intended for planetary observation, I am really pleased with the results and can’t wait for the darkness to come back in August to hunt for galaxies.

If you want to build a similar telescope, you can download the .newt and .svg files I used for the design.

Newt file

Baffles

Mirror Cell

5 Responses

  1. Dr. Carl Franklin

    Absolutely beautiful in its simplicity, design, and overall quality of workmanship. I’m starting my own 8″ project and will liberally steal some of your ideas. 😉

    Thanks for so much detail and a great site.

    • Thomas

      Thank you Carl. Please steal as many ideas as you want. This is the whole purpose of this website 🙂
      Good luck with your 8″ project. I find it to be a really good compromise between aperture and ease of use.

  2. Mike Klensch

    Wow… I am inspired. I have been considering a DIY scope for some time and have thought about doing something very similar to what you’ve designed. It is a beauty and I hope I can pull off something half as beautiful. Thank you for posting this.

    Mike Klensch

  3. Robert nelson

    Good work I am planning to build 8 inch scope with oct shape could you tell me where you got your mirror from

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